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  1. Aldo Mombello
    October 22, 2013

    This an other sample of a larger shorter cigar for which I have the same opinion that I wrote ten minutes ago about Montecristo Petit n.2.

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  2. Aldo Mombello
    October 22, 2013

    Maybe I am too old to appreciate this vitolas with big ring gauge and short lenght or maybe too “aficionado” to tradition that I don’t understand this new cigars. Nevertheless I believe in a gold standard related to my personal experience that a lenght of 12 cm or less could not have a ring gauge larger than 44-46, and for ring gauge larger than 50 16-17 cm of lenght is mandatory…

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  3. jmj_203
    October 23, 2013

    Aldo, you aren’t the only one who is disgusted by the big ring cigars that arebeing forced down our throats while being told they’re the hot new trend. And I’m a young smoker at 32 with just 6 years in cigars so you aren’t alone. Most if not all regular smokers prefer robusto 50 rg max. At least manufacturers are making more coronas and c gordas, but I still black list manufacturers when they release a 6 x 60rg. Is a joke aimed at bringing in newb smokers who think they appear cool with that behemoth, and it’s an insult to the cigar tradition. End my rant.

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  4. Aldo Mombello
    October 23, 2013

    Thank a lot dear Jmj_203.
    If I can I say also that market business is determinant to induce the cuban producers to create these not equilibrate kind of cigars,
    The negative thing is that they have discontinued many vitolas de galera and de salida that are pieces of the story of cuban puros such as many lonsdales and other sizes with relative little ring gauge and lenght over 15 cm too difficult to smoke for beginners but that give great pleasure for frequent cigars smokers. I can not think that someone could consider a cigar like a “big cigarette”…..

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  5. Aldo Mombello
    October 23, 2013

    Hi, to make a logical approach about cigars too short and too large I would like introduce a rule based on the ratio ring gauge divided by lenght in practice RG/L with these results for cigars under 110 mm the gold standard should be a ratio >0,40, for cigars between 110 to 125 mm the ratio should be >0,38, for cigars between 125 to 150 mm. the ratio should be
    >0,36, for cigars over 150 mm. the ratio should be 0,34. If you try to comapared the most famous vitolas de galera this rule is well respected with some exceptions such as Robustos (ratio 0,40 for a lenght of only 124 mm.) but that are well known for their characteristics and history.

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  6. Brett
    October 24, 2013

    I am one who doesn’t mind these type ring gauges on occasion. True a 46-50 is ideal but larger ones every so often is a nice change of pace. Getting rid of the panatelas and lanceros is a concerning trend though.

    I though this cigar was really well constructed and really nice flavors throughout. This is the best constructed LE in 2012 IMO.

    I smoked the Upmann 2012 LE and the 520 right of the truck and the 520 was way better. The Upmann was harsh and the flavors were mediocre.

    I haven’t smoked either since as I am letting them settle but for the Christmas season I will break out another 520 for sure.

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  7. DrFever
    October 24, 2013

    Brett, I found the construction on the Monte 520 to be almost perfect. No issues there.

    I just smoked a couple of the Grand Epicure 2013’s LE and my review will be up shortly. THAT was an amazing smoke but then again in fairness, we all have different palates which is why opinions vary. This cigar (Monte) was horrible, I’ve just had better.

    Cheers and thanks to everyone for the great discussion.

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  8. Gabe215
    October 25, 2013

    I’m also a young smoker at 27 years old I feel like blends shine in the lancero format I don’t really like anything over a 50 RG. I wish more habanos came in the lancero format love trini fundadores and monte especiales. Wish partagas, boils, RA, and RyJ had an offering in a lancero as they are my favorite marcas!

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  9. Aldo Mombello
    October 25, 2013

    Sorry Gabe215 but Lanceros is not a vitola de galera codified shape and also is not a common name Lanceros is a vitola de salida of Cohiba brands and of other two brand but with different shape. Anyway I woul help you if you intend with the term Lanceros a cigar with a relative little RG and lengt over 16-17 cm there are many cigars in vitolas like laiguiito n.1, cervantes, dalias… also in production of Partagas, Romeo y Julieta, Ramon Allones, Montecristo and also La Gloria Cubana, Bolivar, Saint Luis Rey, Vegas Robaina, Vegueros…

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  10. Aldo Mombello
    October 25, 2013

    In my knowledge there are more than 20-25 different cigars in production with a ring gauge between 34-44 with lenght over 155-160 mm produced by several different brands with a large choice of main characters. For an example Partagas 8-9-8 varnished box, H.Upmann n.1, Vegueros n.1, Vegas Robaina Classico, Rafael Gonzales Lonsdale, RyJ Cazadores…..

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  11. Gabe215
    October 25, 2013

    Thank you! I was gonna mention 8-9-8’s but I was specific to the Laguito No 1 and Laguito No 2. Thanks for your info as I said I’m 27 and only been smoking for a few years and have started really getting into Habanos for the last 8 months or so, all knowledge/experience is greatly appreciated!

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  12. Aldo Mombello
    October 25, 2013

    Laiguito n.1 and Laiguito n.2 are two vitolas with not many cigars, I’ll write here a list of “members” of two vitolas as soon as I can, there is a particular that characterize this two vitolas, the head of the cigar have the pig tail, a sort of end made with a torsion of the last leaf of capa.

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  13. Aldo Mombello
    October 25, 2013

    Laiguito No.1 38×192: Cohiba Lanceros, Diplomaticos n.6, Trinidad Grand Panatela (Fundadores the most famous Trinidad brand cigar is an other vitola named Laiguito Especial)and Vegueros Especiales.
    Laiguito No.2 38×152: Cohiba Coronas Especial, Hoyo de Monterrey: Le Hoyo du Dauphin and Le Hoyo Odeon, Montecristo Especial n.2, Vegoeros Especiales n.2.

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  14. Aldo Mombello
    October 25, 2013

    Hey Gabe215 I read your favourite brands Partagas, RA, RyJ if you say to me that you love also Bolivar and H.Upmann we have the same preferences, and we like to smoke mild… ah ah (HU a part that is composite like a pop music song by Genesis for an example) Bolivar, RA, Partagas and some cigars of RyJ, such as Cazadores, are all full strenght cigars, as hard rock songs of Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, AC/DC and Pearl Jam….

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  15. Gregg
    February 7, 2014

    Purchased a box from LCDH Luxembourg several months ago and smoked one upon arrival. SHould have waited a month- but couldnt resist. While a tad young this cigar was outstanding. Perfect draw and burn. It emitted an intoxiating aroma and flavors of graham crackers and exotic spices. Was excellent first draw to last. I purchased 4 additional boxes to age as in 3 or 4 years this cigar will be second to none.

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  16. Dave
    June 9, 2014

    Rather well done DrFever !
    And thank you.
    As you did, it’s always pretty important to set a comparaison with a vitola that would remind you the one you’re evaluating.

    However, the bad drawn on “new” puros is not merley a problem of contruction. Indeed, in Cuba when cigares are “filled” with the “tripa” (the inside) the chief of galera (kind of “tobacco communist kapo” -I’m fooling around-) wants an inside rather thick which will fade away in time to time because of the loss of water inside the leaves with normal evaporation.

    So what to do ? As you underligned for the quality allow some time and it will get better.

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  17. Robusto Babe
    June 16, 2014

    Thx for review. I spent last few days lamenting that I didn’t get some when I bought Monte 2s. The ones I saw were mega money

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  18. Yiorgos
    September 12, 2015
    My review of the Montecristo 520 (2012 Limited Edition)

    The 520 has a massive 55 ring gauge and is 6.1″ long, a new size called “Maravilla No.3″, which follows the current trend of big, thick vitolas. Although I am not a fan of Montecristo cigars, nor jaw stretching vitolas, I am expecting this to be as good as the most recent Montecristo Limitadas, which I have thoroughly enjoyed.

    Montecristo 520

    The 520 has a smooth and shiny wrapper, which has some prominent veins. The bunch is firm and consistent throughout and the cap is a little sloppy. Strong aromas of coffee and earth emerge from the foot of the cigar and the prelight draw is good. Time to light it up…

    After taking a couple of puffs, I have to stop because I can feel my eyes watering. For a moment, it feels like this cigar was stuffed with ground pepper, which is now boiling on my tongue! Its almost aggressive… I put it to rest for a few seconds, while trying to register the distressed signals my palate is sending me! Is it good spice or bad spice? I am not sure yet, but it feels like tasting a vindaloo dish; it tastes great, but you don’t know whether to take another bite or make a run to the nearest water tap! After my mouth has managed to escape the pepper hurricane, I can feel a nice, salty aftertaste. Time for another bite…

    Montecristo 520

    It doesn’t feel as strong any more. I hope it has calmed down, or else it has damaged my tastebuds beyond repair. The pepper is still there, but not as strong as before, leaving some room for flavours of cedar and coffee to emerge. The aftertaste is still long and lingering, with a creamy, salty flavour. The draw is perfect and the 520 produces more smoke than my attic window can extract.

    30 minutes have passed and my tongue is still a little bit tender. The 520 has now calmed down even more, releasing an array of flavours; earth, coffee, cedar, a little chocolate and some pepper reminiscent. The smoothness of the Montecristo Limitadas has also started to appear, making the flavours more creamy and s0othing. The body is still medium to full and there is no worries at all with the draw and burn. The ash is light grey in colour and reaches more than an inch in length before falling off, crumbling on top my keyboard as usual…

    In the final third, the 520 gets a little bit of edge. The sweet chocolatey flavours are hardly noticeable, while earth and coffee have taken the stage. The finish is a little bitter and has a touch of ammonia, but I wouldn’t say that it is unpleasant yet. Towards the end it does require some frequent touch ups tho, which also affect the flavour. 2 hours after lighting it up and its time to be put to sleep.

    Although it caught me by surprise on the beginning, I did enjoy the 520. As I have said before, the Montecristo standard flavour profile wouldn’t be my cup of tea. However, the aged tobacco used for the limitadas seems to work wonders for me… The 520 reminds me of the Montecristo Sublime and Gran Edmundo; rich and strong, but yet smooth and creamy.

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